Is the apocalypse near? There is a sign for an actual business hanging on the F&M building. I guess they are no longer looking to drive the assessment any lower?
Anyone have any info on who, what or when? Anyone have any info on the last bar that was down there? It would be interesting if they could gate off part of the sidewalk/street during the concerts for outdoor enjoyment of beverages.
21st Amendment
116 Main St Lockport, NY 14094-3702
(716) 433-0021
And to touch on an old subject, please give us more of the projecting signs. They look classier, they don't clash with the lines of the building, and they are easier to spot/read when building facades are up to the street.
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I had heard the old bar was full of water for a long time, I wonder if that was true or not.
The bar has been open for a week and a half now and they are doing a "soft opening" to work out any issues the building or new bar may have! According to the paper they are having their grand opening this weekend. I believe it says Thursday pm. I have been in and they did a fantastic job renovating and it seemed very reasonably priced. The decor matches the theme of The 21st Amendment which ended prohibition! Its my new favorite bar and the owner is always there and very friendly!
Thanks for the info. I did not see the article in the web version of the LUSJ.
The owner told me that he is eventually replacing the awning cover when his budget allows which is when he will put a simple classy sign on the new awning. I like the fact that the huge old white for lease sign is covered up! Its simple classy and clean.
Does the elevator work to get in there or do you have to use the stairs?
Anyone know if they serve food?
Yes the current sign goes well. It actually fits in the space and is thankfully not back lit as opposed to the big Indian Grill/Metropolitan/Whatever's Next sign on the UCC that fights the facade it is located on. The projecting sign is just a "wish list". I could envision a directly lit projected sign over a new awning. Like those of us who are renovating old houses, I understand the time and money constraints.
The sign says "restuarant-bar-music" underneath the name so i'd assume food is a safe bet.
It's great to see this location coming back. In today's world of cinderblock huts in the middle of a parking lot, it's great to have a "real" urban bar. They don't make them like this anymore. ;)
The owner said they plan to have paninis and such, deli-type bar food.
What was the name of this bar in the 70's? Was it the Friar and Thief? Is the old bar still there? I can remember coins and paper money under the clear coating on the bar.
How did they get around the the fire code. I believe thats why it was shut down in the first place no other exit?
And for say if im handicapped how do i get access to the restaurant/bar.
Always a buzzkill in the crowd.
There are enough handicap accessible bars in the area for the 77 Mainers in their Larks to patronize.
As for the fire and handicap codes. I believe that this building is grandfathered.
Whats next? How about the undersized doors? What will the fatties do?
anon 1,2,or 3 or whom ever you are.
If your "buzz" get's killed that easily..then stay off the blog. As long as it's good enough for you that's all that matters....right?
Not to get off topic,but I see that a kitchen and bath showroom is opening in the city centre where Wilhelm Ashe flower shop was. It's nice to see someone filling the void left by Kitchen World and doing it downtown.
yes..always good to see new businesses migrating to the downtown area...Bravo!
Sorry but i believe it was shut down because of the fire codes.So how can it be grandfathered in because it couldnt pass the fire code.
Thats a oxymoron if not good for one how can it be good for another.
And if it was grandfathered in. It must be the same owner of friar and thief with the same liquer licsense kept upto date from the date of closure.For the same premises with name and title to area being licsened for use.Varience for handicapped are hard to come by.
Try building bar and restaurant with one entrance and exit you will not get to far .
Must be the friend and family plan of Tucker and his hoodlums who pushed this through.
Could never be....if Elmer Granchelli still owns that building.
You can't grandfather in fire code deficiencies or handicap access. If any restoration took place the city had to require that the building be brought up to code.
No such thing as "grandfathering" when it comes to fire codes and "handicapped access." It is what it is and is a major expense thus deterring most folks from fixing up these types of buildings. Just ask the fellow who re-did (beautifully!) the old An-Jo Club on Vine Street.
To get that ugly p.o.s. building up and running again would be a huge improvement to downtown. Looks like it's going to happen based on the signs and the above comments. Thank G-d!
Liquer,licsence,varience?? Improper usage of "a" and "an". No clue what the definition of oxymoron is. That was painful to read.
I went and checked for same curiosity... the bar has two (2) exits! One leading out the way you come in and the other onto main street. You are correct in the fire code in NYS! In terms of handicap access it is grandfathered in as it has always been a bar. It did not have to always be open but the type of business could never change. If over last however many years they put in a hobby shop and then tried to reopen as a bar you would not be able to. It was originally closed due to the church and school being next door if memory serves me right. Im just glad someone was able to put a business in the building! Now maybe they will fill the rest of it up!
Wasn't there an elevator in the back corner near the lav's?
It was not shut down due to fire codes.It closed as the vault,it was to be reopened as the hot spot.The occupancy was not legal due to its proximity to a school.The property on canal st. that was once the Model T. is still considered a bar.The occupancy of building or the section of such remains until a new c.of o.( certificate of occupancy) is established. Also the building can be granfathered. if less than 50% is being renovated you do not need to bring the new codes into the rest of the unrenovated section.Joe scirto owned the vault and ran it into the ground.thats why it closed.
Conversations like this are always interesting as they reveal how diverging stories can be.
So do they have a TV or two for the Sabres' games? Anything unique on draft?
I just stopped by @ 3:30 today and the lights were on but the door was locked.
Lots of good scenery there on weekends!;)
Who is the new owner. Would be nice to chat about options of other bars to open.
I can't get my hover-round down them stairs :(
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