tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5926052286620522481.post9132597360910073374..comments2023-11-06T05:41:18.292-05:00Comments on Lockport NY: City Charter Review IntroMJhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08897623569897105078noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5926052286620522481.post-52940501130769015352011-07-15T07:50:38.905-04:002011-07-15T07:50:38.905-04:00Clean up....or at least I tried too.
Please stop...Clean up....or at least I tried too. <br /><br />Please stop attacking each other. I really don't want to have to start pre-approving all comments.<br /><br />Sorry if I deleted anything valid, but if it is attached to attacking other commenters etc a majority of the time it gets removed.MJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08897623569897105078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5926052286620522481.post-78121991144806632572011-07-14T16:20:15.413-04:002011-07-14T16:20:15.413-04:00I hope Phyllis pounds him in the primary good bye ...I hope Phyllis pounds him in the primary good bye Tucker your ego has gotten to big for this cityAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5926052286620522481.post-24830852539917200902011-07-14T14:37:19.113-04:002011-07-14T14:37:19.113-04:00IMHO - Hoffman "won" as the City did not...IMHO - Hoffman "won" as the City did not do as I suggested. Not only me - I do NOT take credit for anything - but the City can't change the Charter w/o a Referendum. <br />I've said here - and to the Common Council at the meeting at which Hoffman was "fired" that they COULD NOT do this.<br />I have no opinion as to whether or not Mike should have been fired. That's not up to me - obviously. I was present for one very nasty argument between Hoffman and Tucker - neither of them behaved like gentleman. This is when I suggested to Tucker that if he wanted to fire Hoffman he'd better start documenting that which Hoffman did or didn't do vis a vis Tucker.<br />Changing the Charter can't be done by a simple majority vote of the Common Council. I said that several times at the hearing re: firing Hoffman, I repeatedly said "You need a referendum!" I know a lot of people think I'm "batshit crazy" because they listen to a few bozos or don't know me personally. I guess that's their right but if anyone is libeling anyone else - it isn't me.<br />Those folks should read and understand the law before they spout off with their insults and maliciously defamatory, damaging misrepresentations. No more defamatory slander either. This is not a place to lie. It is a place where citizens of this City can come and read or share their opinions with others.<br />I attempt to provide suggestions which, in my personal opinion, will help our City. not to be treated with scorn. Please stop or all others will be hurt by my absence. Thank you.Pattinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5926052286620522481.post-4488801347760991962011-07-14T13:03:03.842-04:002011-07-14T13:03:03.842-04:00Mj I think a perfect example is the Hoffman episod...Mj I think a perfect example is the Hoffman episode. They quickly changed the charter to eliminate his job, created a position but then the state ruled they had to change it again as Allen is not a professional engineer.<br />It seems like the whole thing could have been thought out better if they had spent time on it.<br /><br />But the main point is (and I don't mean this as a political statement) pretend in 5 years we have a council that rubber stamps the mayors wishes. This mayor then gets mad about something and wants to make a major charter change, and the council approves it in one meeting! It just seems like something as powerful as a city charter should require some more "pain" to change then a simple council meeting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5926052286620522481.post-83437853750699941782011-07-14T11:32:21.745-04:002011-07-14T11:32:21.745-04:00sorry..I've never found Dick Mullaney to be ve...sorry..I've never found Dick Mullaney to be very co-operative.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5926052286620522481.post-89509498203096271172011-07-14T11:04:48.791-04:002011-07-14T11:04:48.791-04:00Contact Dick Mullaney about access. The process is...Contact Dick Mullaney about access. The process is basically going through the entire charter/code from front to back line by line. Not the most exciting thing in the world unless you are truly interested in how everything works (or at least how it was written in 1911 and updated here and there over the years)<br /><br />Charter is like any other of the laws/codes in the city. It is either a council majority vote or a public referendum under certain situations. Unlike say the State Constitution etc that have the more onerous requirements.<br /><br />What aspects of the Charter would you see relevant to require multiple votes in successive councils etc? It does sound noble but it can also make change very slow and difficult (impossible). I'd be up for slightly higer requirements but I'd be careful.MJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08897623569897105078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5926052286620522481.post-59655357623132327132011-07-14T10:39:26.961-04:002011-07-14T10:39:26.961-04:00In regards to the above I used the Hoffman situati...In regards to the above I used the Hoffman situation as an example of something where I was surprised the charter could be changed so easy, the basic question is can the charter be changed at any time by a simple majority vote? And if true, should the charter be changed to make it a little more difficult to make changes so it is ensured that the changes are well thought out? i.e, 30 days or two different elected councils or a 3/4 majority or even a public vote.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5926052286620522481.post-45587226651498012982011-07-14T10:34:23.648-04:002011-07-14T10:34:23.648-04:00MJ - does it say in there the method to make chang...MJ - does it say in there the method to make changes to the charter? I was surprised with the Hoffman thing that they could just do a majority vote and immediately change the charter. I would have thought it would take 2 votes over 30 days or something like that.<br />It seems something as important as that shouldn't be allowed to be changed on a whim with just a simple vote.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5926052286620522481.post-69552889897968919092011-07-14T09:12:11.707-04:002011-07-14T09:12:11.707-04:00will meetings discussing changes be open to the pu...will meetings discussing changes be open to the public?<br /><br />I like to sit in and listenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5926052286620522481.post-318179571849094342011-07-14T09:07:57.195-04:002011-07-14T09:07:57.195-04:00Has anyone heard that Phillis Green is going to Ch...Has anyone heard that Phillis Green is going to Challenge Mike Tucker in the Primary??<br /><br />People are walking petitions for her...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5926052286620522481.post-62790975108974510132011-07-14T08:07:27.185-04:002011-07-14T08:07:27.185-04:00The Mayor is giving no input to the group. He was ...The Mayor is giving no input to the group. He was there at the first meeting to explain why we were brought together and then hasn't been seen since. Just as he is never around and has no input to the Planning or Zoning Boards.<br /><br />As for term limits, once again, they would have to pass a public referendum. So we only have to fear ourselves in that regard.<br /><br />I'd be for removing Elm St between Main and Chestnut but I'd want to see infill along Market between Main and Chestnut and Chestnut itself returned to a street from Washburn to Market. And speaking of Elm, it should be reopened between Walnut and South St to give the old Harrison buildings more street frontage and make South not such a cut off place behind it.MJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08897623569897105078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5926052286620522481.post-14853396029958193772011-07-13T22:14:39.798-04:002011-07-13T22:14:39.798-04:00@ Charlene - I, also, think the City should ditch ...@ Charlene - I, also, think the City should ditch Elm Street and make a huge parking lot. I think there are some legal issues that would need to be worked out.<br />I wonder where all the people in those cars go...! Do they all work at Social Services? That would take a lot of cars to fill that entire area.Pattinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5926052286620522481.post-91853990272156842172011-07-13T20:10:29.431-04:002011-07-13T20:10:29.431-04:00@MJ - you win!! ; - ) !!@MJ - you win!! ; - ) !!Pattinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5926052286620522481.post-17048039212473139692011-07-13T16:53:47.553-04:002011-07-13T16:53:47.553-04:00Now that he fears being voted OUT..he'll want ...Now that he fears being voted OUT..he'll want to put TERM LIMITS in the charter...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5926052286620522481.post-39055201718195671662011-07-13T16:11:26.729-04:002011-07-13T16:11:26.729-04:00Yea change the charter like it really matters. The...Yea change the charter like it really matters. The ma yor does what he wants and the council bows to whatever he tells them. Too bad that Hoffman move is gonna come back to bite him you know where. But that doesnt effect him its the taxpayers that pay for his vendettas. The change that needs to be made is mayor tucker voted out of office in novemberAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5926052286620522481.post-59753820308923388612011-07-13T15:28:42.150-04:002011-07-13T15:28:42.150-04:00I agree ....it makes GREAT sense..I'm not disp...I agree ....it makes GREAT sense..I'm not disputing that..all I said was that I questioned the timing. <br /><br />While we're changing the Charter the City should take back the responsibility of repairing the sidewalks. That's been "their " excuse in the past. If changes takes place it should be more than not being able to "leave your mule unattended"G.I.Joenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5926052286620522481.post-47656046713419610022011-07-13T15:02:51.162-04:002011-07-13T15:02:51.162-04:00Here's where I mentioned it last back in Decem...Here's where I mentioned it last back in December 2010.<br /><br />http://lockportforum.blogspot.com/2010/12/1998-city-of-lockport-master-plan.htmlMJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08897623569897105078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5926052286620522481.post-327427765459809982011-07-13T15:02:37.934-04:002011-07-13T15:02:37.934-04:00I think it makes sense (election year or not) to g...I think it makes sense (election year or not) to go through and eliminate unnecessary rules or update codes and I don't think it really matters who takes the credit for it.Karennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5926052286620522481.post-7686232395187372612011-07-13T14:52:29.121-04:002011-07-13T14:52:29.121-04:00Thanks for the actual comment on the code Karen. T...Thanks for the actual comment on the code Karen. That will be an interesting one to discuss.MJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08897623569897105078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5926052286620522481.post-86334193885847537122011-07-13T14:49:21.170-04:002011-07-13T14:49:21.170-04:00Then I guess I missed your point or you failed to ...Then I guess I missed your point or you failed to mention it. The one you just made was not in any of your comments above. It does not have too much to do with selective reading. Maybe trying to fill in the blanks?<br /><br />As I mentioned above updating the Charter/City Code (and also the City Master Plan) has been mentioned by Tucker as "like to do's" since at least around the time I started this blog back in 2008. I wish it came sooner but I believe it is Dick's retirement that finally got the ball rolling.MJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08897623569897105078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5926052286620522481.post-53457863486768345432011-07-13T14:29:12.092-04:002011-07-13T14:29:12.092-04:00I'm not kicking anything to the mud...It's...I'm not kicking anything to the mud...It's suspicious when in an election years we suddenly have all of this activity so that the candidates or incumbent's litany can suddenly be filled with.." well I am the first Mayor to try and clean up the city charter".<br /><br />Too much "selective reading" going on here.G.I Joenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5926052286620522481.post-52365164081889209352011-07-13T13:29:30.230-04:002011-07-13T13:29:30.230-04:00I'm pretty sure that in Article XIII, all the ...I'm pretty sure that in Article XIII, all the sections referring to "sick persons" wouldn't fly in today's world because of HIPAA rules. I don't know of any "innkeepers" that will be notifying the city that they are "housing a sick person" (C-313, C-314, C-315).Karennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5926052286620522481.post-25192047143499671542011-07-13T11:01:40.735-04:002011-07-13T11:01:40.735-04:00It is amusing that the anon responded to "lib...It is amusing that the anon responded to "libel" with "hearsay" ;)MJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08897623569897105078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5926052286620522481.post-45861546385902264662011-07-13T10:24:08.678-04:002011-07-13T10:24:08.678-04:00Re: Libel? Truth is an absolute defense.
Exactly w...Re: Libel? Truth is an absolute defense.<br />Exactly what I told Tucker when this whole thing started; "Paper his file." Obviously - he didn't or they wouldn't have had to mess with the City Charter to fire him.<br />I know nothing about any sub-contracting.<br /><br />He's also a public figure.<br /><br />Do I have to go back to an "Anonymous" to protect myself from baseless threats like this? Not even the threats are worth it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5926052286620522481.post-83352660916185412392011-07-13T08:53:16.215-04:002011-07-13T08:53:16.215-04:00what did Jerry Mandard have to do with the distric...what did Jerry Mandard have to do with the districts?hitlernoreply@blogger.com